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Why I quit the Baha’i Faith.

Posted by Dale Husband on October 19, 2007

A decade ago, I was a member of a religion known as the Baha’i Faith. This religion teaches that God is called by various names but is still the same all over the world, that all religions teach the same basic message, and that humanity is one and is destined to unite under the banner of the Baha’i Faith in a new age of peace and unity.


For one who is eager, as I was, to see goodness in most things that claim to be good, this was a Godsend! I embraced the faith in 1995 and became an active teacher of it, even attempting to convert others to it. I had been a Christian in my teens, but had become disgusted with Christianity and left that faith in my early 20s because I saw the errors, contradictions, and failures of it. The Baha’i Faith explained that away by claiming that while Jesus was indeed a Messenger (or Manifestation) of God, His faith had become corrupted over time and thus most Christians were not truly following him, but the doctrines of men. In joining the Baha’i community, I was seeing what the early Christians in the Roman Empire were like, except that unlike them the Baha’is would not split into competing sects and engage in wars against each other. If only everyone in the world became Baha’i, I was told, we would be at peace and prosperity forever.

 

 


What a wonderful vision! But human nature will NEVER allow for it! The reason is that the leadership of the Baha’i Faith, from its founder, Baha’u’llah, to the Universal House of Justice today, claims to be infallible because it is guided by God. Yet we know that Baha’u’llah, his son Abdu’l-Baha, Abdu’l-Baha’s grandson Shoghi Effendi (the Guardian of the Faith), and the members of the Universal House of Justice were/are all HUMAN BEINGS. What evidence do we have that ANY of them are infallible? NONE! And if you cannot question the will of a leadership, what do you in fact have? Tyranny! And what does tyranny always lead to, according to history? Corruption and injustice! And that, in turn results in the system breaking down over time. It was my coming to understand this that finally led me to leave the Faith in 2004. Indeed, the very idea that any human being, human run institution, or human product is infallible is sheer nonsense. It is the most dangerous idea in the world!

 

 

http://circleh.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/religious-fundamentalism-is-blasphemy/
 
I have every reason to beleive that, unless the Baha’i Faith goes down to extinction in the next few centuries, it will become as corrupt and dangerous as any other religion has ever been. It is not dangerous now only because there are so few of them. But the fact is that this Faith is directly descended from the Shiite branch of Islam, which is known to be extremely violent and intolerant by nature. The Baha’i Faith, which was founded in the 19th Century, looks exactly like what one would expect if one took the most liberal Western political and social concepts of that Century and grafted them onto Shiite Islam. By implication, that also involves accepting everything about Islam and its Prophet Muhammad as true and good as well. If you do not, you cannot be Baha’i. That is the Baha’i Faith’s greatest weakness!

I am an non-theist now, worshipping no God and following no faith. And I do not foresee myself being anything else. The Baha’i Faith was the last chance I was willing to give for a God centered religion to rule my life….and now I know that none ever will.

8 Responses to “Why I quit the Baha’i Faith.”

  1. Neshia Says:

    Mr. Husband,
    I respect your opinions about the Baha’i’ Faith. I see your point about how utterly ridiculous it is for one to claim infallibility. Were I not raised in the Baha’i’ Faith, I would probably have trouble accepting that as well.

    The underlying tone that I can read into your publication is that you had great hope and your hopes were dashed. I am deeply sorry for that. I wish I had been with your during your days within the Baha’i’ Faith. I would have availed myself to you for questions and advice on which books to read and which classes to take. But, alas, I was not.

    At this point, I can offer you this one advice. With the utmost sincerity, ask God to guide you to His Word. See what happens. I’m not saying that you’ll end up back with the Baha’i’s. You might not. But, if you are sincere, what will happen is that God will put you on the path of His choice. And like they said in the Old Days; “All roads lead to Rome.”

    If you want to correspond via email about these matters, I am happy to do that with you. I also have a Yahoo chat ID.
    Neshia

  2. Dale Husband Says:

    Thank you, Neshia.
    Well, at least you didn’t claim that I misrepresented your Faith in some way. Everything I said in that blog I know to be true, and I encourage others to investigate the Baha’i Faith for themselves so they will know I told the truth. My word alone is not sufficient.

    What really irked me about the Baha’i Faith, even as a dedicated member, was how poorly the Baha’is themselves lived up to its high moral standards. The teachings of Baha’i sexual morals are exactly the same as those of traditional Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (sex only within marriage, rejection of homosexuality). Even I failed to follow that strict standard, and eventually concluded that it was irrational to even try because it went against human nature. And anything that goes against human nature is a threat to human welfare.

  3. Stefan Says:

    try “God Alone”

    http://free-minds.org/forum/

    peace

  4. Dale Husband Says:

    Uh, that is a forum run by Muslims, Stefan.

    Sorry, but if I don’t accept Islam at all, as my blog above makes clear, your offer is pointless.

    I’d rather go to these places:
    http://atheism.about.com/
    http://www.atheists-online.com/links.asp?p=7
    http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
    http://www.iheu.org/
    http://www.americanhumanist.org/index.html

  5. Stefan Says:

    “I encourage others to investigate the Baha’i Faith for themselves so they will know I told the truth. My word alone is not sufficient.”

    believe me “God Alone” is not Islam you already know, investigate and see for yourself

  6. anwarica Says:

    Hello,
    Let me congratulate you for being atheist .. actually that’s not my speech, but you can watch this video to know why Muslims congratulate you :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyboXCIVJY0
    you can skip the first part of the video and continue with the atheism issue .. wishing you a good luck in your life.

  7. hobojoe3000 Says:

    I suppose that I view the declaration of infallibility as a more pragmatic provision than a metaphysical statement which is declared for largely the same reason that the supreme court is given the power it has (otherwise there is a system of infinite appeals). Perhaps to some as yourself such a statement has too much metaphysical component to be viewed as truth, but to me, it is not so. Ultimately though, I think what you are saying will happen cannot happen because supposing that the Baha’i institution becomes corrupt, it is still an elected institution which eventually gets reelected, thereby (hopefully, although this requires effort on part of the individual Baha’is) eliminating the corruption; and even if the institution becomes so corrupt as to be irreparable, provisions in the Baha’i faith itself allow people to leave unconditionally of their own volition and in no wise to be belittled, put down, or viewed as “condemned” as is common in other religious followings. If, even then, the institution became so corrupt that it pursues former believers and attempts to force its doctrines on the unwilling (a thing expressly forbidden by the faith and one of the things I view as setting it apart from other religious institutions) then even such devout believers as myself would leave the faith and pursue their religious lives in another manner.

    Keep in mind as well that people outside the faith are under no jurisdiction of the faith. Which is why Wikipedia currently has an image of Baha’u'llah on it’s article on the Baha’i faith: as a non-Baha’i institution, the Baha’i institution has no control over what it does.

    Just some thoughts. Wishing you happy skepticism.

  8. hobojoe3000 Says:

    Also, I find it strange that you say Baha’is fail to live up to their own moral standards. From my own experience, while they aren’t prefect, they are generally stringent about the laws. I find it rare to find a lifelong Baha’i who has had premarital sex or drunk alcohol. Keep in mind this is just from my experience in my own community and the community you were a part of may be entirely different than my own. Of course, my community is small, and as (if) it grows, just by statistics, the amount of people who behave contrary to the laws will grow, but this is true of any institution, so I view it as a moot point.

    Again: happy skepticism. Good blog, by the way. I especially like the pieces about silly Intelligent Designers. Oh Intelligent Design, you so crazy.

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